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  1. #31
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    I've never understood why so many accuse the state of South Dakota of planting birds. Any state expenditure of that magnitude requires politicians to vote and authorize the program. That information is always available to the public (see the Freedom of Information Act). I suggest that the next time anyone decides to issue claims of unknowing hunters shooting state stocked birds, that they provide the documentation that's available to anyone (even non-residents)....as long as it exists.

    I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm an Iowa resident who seldom hunts South Dakota. However I do resent individuals mocking SD hunters by implying they're shooting stocked birds when the public land hunters are in fact shooting truly wild birds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy S View Post
    I've never understood why so many accuse the state of South Dakota of planting birds. Any state expenditure of that magnitude requires politicians to vote and authorize the program. That information is always available to the public (see the Freedom of Information Act). I suggest that the next time anyone decides to issue claims of unknowing hunters shooting state stocked birds, that they provide the documentation that's available to anyone (even non-residents)....as long as it exists.

    I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm an Iowa resident who seldom hunts South Dakota. However I do resent individuals mocking SD hunters by implying they're shooting stocked birds when the public land hunters are in fact shooting truly wild birds.
    I wouldn't over react here. It was posed as uncertain. For what its worth, I spoke with several (more than 7) outfitters from SD and they all indicated the large operators supplement. Whether state required or support, IDK.

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    My dogs donít know the difference and they taste the same I hope they plant a bunch that migrate to public hunting land lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsingbob View Post
    Based only on what I read and see in videos, many outfitters in South Dakota are less that forthright in disclosing to clients that they are shooting planted birds. Still, this cannot affect harvest reports significantly.
    By SD State law any PRIVATE shooting preserve HAS to release birds. The numbers are not hard to find for interested clients.

    https://gfp.sd.gov/shooting-preserves/

    2017-18 * 214 Private Preserves * Pheasant Released 468,668 * Total Harvested 283,254 * Released Birds Harvested 264,291 *. Wild Birds Harvested 18,963

    Private Preserve released birds also are required by State law to be marked before release. It's not hard to tell wild from released.

    41:09:01:03. Birds that may be released -- Minimum release age -- Marking of birds. Any bird released on a shooting preserve must be at least 15 weeks of age at the time of release. Except for partridge, any game bird or turkey propagated, possessed, or released on the premises described in the preserve permit must have one front toe or one hind toe on either foot removed back to the first joint including the nail before becoming six weeks of age. An anti-pecking device affixed to the bird before it is six weeks old and worn by the bird until it is at least 15 weeks old is acceptable in lieu of toe clipping if the anti-pecking device leaves a permanent, easily identifiable mark through the nares.
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    Interesting. Thanks for posting.

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    I think better better than last year for pheasants .Huns are way down.Chuckers are doing well. Sharptails, will be found, but not east.

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    Keep it Kansas...

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    OK, Kansas.

    In Kansas they call them Controlled Shooting Areas. Same deal; pay to shoot primarily released birds. I cannot find any totals for the number of birds released though. The rules are similar and they do keep records.


    From: 115-11-2. Controlled shooting areas; operational requirements.

    (e) Only those game birds released on the controlled shooting area from August 15 through April 30 of the license period shall be credited toward the allowable take for the area.
    (f) The licensee shall not take or permit the taking of more than 100 percent of the number of each species of game bird released on the controlled shooting area. These game bird species shall not be hunted on the area until a release of the game bird species has been made.

    From: 115-11-1. Controlled shooting areas; license application, issuance priority, and reporting.

    (i) Each licensee shall maintain records of game bird releases, a register of hunters, the number of animals or birds taken for each species of game animal hunted on the controlled shooting area, and any other relevant information required by the secretary on forms provided by the department. These records shall be available for inspection by departmental staff.

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    CSA hunts are not counted in the Kansas harvest numbers. And there are very few outfitters in Kansas to “supplement”, openly or not, their operations with released birds.

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    Nor did I say they were counted in Kansas harvest numbers.

    However there are quite a few Kansas CSAs and if you choose to hunt one of those, you'll be shooting released birds almost exclusively. Just like every other pay to shoot in any state.

    Kansas CSAs by region: https://ksoutdoors.com/Hunting/Where...Shooting-Areas

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