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    Quote Originally Posted by Mill Creek View Post
    Your success will be dependent on how good their fields are and the weather. I've had dove stacked in a field Aug 30 and a cool snap come through and they disappear the next day. If they have a good sunflower or milo field and manage it well this month, chances are you'll have plenty of opportunities opening day. The KDWP also plants several fields for sunflowers every year at different WMA's. I haven't checked the website this year, but my gut tells me that the planting conditions were less than optimal for them this spring.

    I don't believe hunting has been ruined at all. I have a great time running my dogs on both public and private ground, some of which I pay for access, some not. When I started hunting KS the scrubby pastures, where we found quail, were worth $200-$300 per acre, today they're worth 10x that. That getting permission has gotten harder is a fact, but there it's more than just leasing. Farms are getting bigger, we're losing habitat, it's not efficient running a 24 row planter (or bigger) in an 80 ac field. CRP has been capped and that's not good for the birds in KS.

    Good hunting ground is a declining resource and I don't see the trend reversing. Whether you pay to hunt or not is solely your decision, the important thing is that you're hunting and hopefully sharing and promoting our culture with others.
    When I say hunting has been ruined I am talking about all hunting in general. If you think that deer hunting is better now than it was 40 years ago and prior to non resident hunting you have flown over the cuckoo's nest. Deer hunting in the last 15 years has really hurt pheasant hunting. Land is not managed for pheasants, it is managed for deer. Private land is locked up with deer hunters. Which locks out upland hunters. When a group of 4 from Colorado come in and offer the local farmer $16,000 to hunt his 1200 acres, it makes it tough for the 1 guy and his dog to gain access to hunt pheasants. KDWPT has a huge problem now with illegal tag purchase. Local game warden told me a few weeks ago that he had a list of 68 names for just his area of illegally purchased tags. Fellow from Pennsylvania was hunting the property I hunted last year and through casual conversation I discovered he had an illegal tag. He bought a farm here 3 years ago with 14 acres. He thought that qualified him for a resident land owner tag or that it gave him a way to dance around the draw. I immediately called the warden. Warden said it is a huge problem with out of state hunters purchasing a house then buying a resident tag. This year many non residents didn't draw tags and some of those payed huge amounts of money to lease. You can bet that some of them will purchase an illegal tag to justify their lease. Curious as to how long you have hunted here? If you think that hunting has not been diminished here just ask some of the game wardens.
    Last edited by westksbowhunter; 08-05-2019 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westksbowhunter View Post
    When I say hunting has been ruined I am talking about all hunting in general. If you think that deer hunting is better now than it was 40 years ago and prior to non resident hunting you have flown over the cuckoo's nest. Deer hunting in the last 15 years has really hurt pheasant hunting. Land is not managed for pheasants, it is managed for deer. Private land is locked up with deer hunters. Which locks out upland hunters. When a group of 4 from Colorado come in and offer the local farmer $16,000 to hunt his 1200 acres, it makes it tough for the 1 guy and his dog to gain access to hunt pheasants. KDWPT has a huge problem now with illegal tag purchase. Local game warden told me a few weeks ago that he had a list of 68 names for just his area of illegally purchased tags. Fellow from Pennsylvania was hunting the property I hunted last year and through casual conversation I discovered he had an illegal tag. He bought a farm here 3 years ago with 14 acres. He thought that qualified him for a resident land owner tag or that it gave him a way to dance around the draw. I immediately called the warden. Warden said it is a huge problem with out of state hunters purchasing a house then buying a resident tag. This year many non residents didn't draw tags and some of those payed huge amounts of money to lease. You can bet that some of them will purchase an illegal tag to justify their lease. Curious as to how long you have hunted here? If you think that hunting has not been diminished here just ask some of the game wardens.
    I've lived here long enough to remember $300 acre pasture ground in SE KS. No, it's not like it used to be, but it's nowhere near "ruined" for me.

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    The Cimarron grassland in Southwest Kansasís usually offers some good dove hunting. Anywhere between Rolla and Elkhart there are numerous stock tanks with overflows. Dove l water in the evening before flying to roost in the trees on the river. Itís all public hunting mostly sand hills so not affected by heavy rain and standing water.
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