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    Default 8 week old yellow lab puppy upland training tips.

    I will be getting a 8 week old lab puppy on may 3rd. The sire has a hunting background and pointing traits. Does anyone know of any good upland hunting training videos/books. I will also be training the puppy for duck hunting. I've been a hunter my whole life, but this is my first hunting dog and I will be training him on my own. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyman View Post
    I will be getting a 8 week old lab puppy on may 3rd. The sire has a hunting background and pointing traits. Does anyone know of any good upland hunting training videos/books. I will also be training the puppy for duck hunting. I've been a hunter my whole life, but this is my first hunting dog and I will be training him on my own. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
    I don't know of any upland books to recommend, I assume there are some good ones geared to flushers like springers. I personally don't believe in promoting point in Labradors but that's just me.

    For the retriever stuff I am becoming a big fan of Bill Hillman's stuff for young dogs, around transition I would switch to Lardy's TRT or Fowl dogs. A lot of people may push you towards Wolters books like Waterdog, his stuff was the gold standard and still has some value but its pretty dated. An old school training book that really gets little credit but is outstanding is Charles Journey book.
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    Thank you for the info, its greatly appreciated. I'm not sure about promoting the pointing traits either, do you know of any major negatives if promoting those traits in a flushing lab?

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    Definitely get the Fowl Dawgs DVD #1. Great tool for training your puppy. Get it now before you get your puppy so you can start watching and be prepared. First step is crate training. Be prepared for several sleepless nights If a dog is going to point, let it do it naturally. https://www.gundogsupply.com/fowl-dogs-dvd-set.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by westksbowhunter View Post
    Definitely get the Fowl Dawgs DVD #1. Great tool for training your puppy. Get it now before you get your puppy so you can start watching and be prepared. First step is crate training. Be prepared for several sleepless nights If a dog is going to point, let it do it naturally. https://www.gundogsupply.com/fowl-dogs-dvd-set.html
    Thanks for the info and advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyman View Post
    Thank you for the info, its greatly appreciated. I'm not sure about promoting the pointing traits either, do you know of any major negatives if promoting those traits in a flushing lab?
    Dunno about the negatives re pointing lab; my Max(Golden) points, especially critters. And this has saved him from getting hit by skunks and porky's, but not every time. I don't find it a negative with upland hunting. The lab guy's may disagree...

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    I would highly recommend the book Training The Pointing Labrador by Julie Knutson its a great foundation for dog training. If your dog points or flushes it doesn't matter don't try to force anything just enjoy the time in the field the dogs traits will come out with bird exposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyman View Post
    I will be getting a 8 week old lab puppy on may 3rd. The sire has a hunting background and pointing traits. Does anyone know of any good upland hunting training videos/books. I will also be training the puppy for duck hunting. I've been a hunter my whole life, but this is my first hunting dog and I will be training him on my own. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
    Gatzby and westkansas—just about gave you the best advise you could get on training videos/programs all their recommendations are first class-though I don’t care for Wolters JMO

    Fowl Dogs is great and easy to understand-Rick Stawski a first class gentleman
    Hill man excellent as well
    Lardy-his name and success speaks for itself

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    I raise and train labs (amateur not pro). I found John & Amy Dahl's 10 Minute Retriever to be an outstanding foundation through about the first 6 months, after that I use Evan Graham's Smartwork and Smart Fetch Program through intermediate to finished. When I begin formal OB at 12-16 weeks I do two 10 minute sessions a day that gradually lengthen to maybe 20 minutes absolute tops at about 12 months, when a pup's ability to learn and attention span take off. Takes me roughly 16-24 months to train a dog from 7 weeks old to Finished. my finished lab has rock solid OB, is steady to wing & shot, delivers to hand, will do multiple marks out to several hundred yards, handles on land & in water (blind retrieves), hunts upland, and hunts waterfowl out of boats & field blind. Just for the fun of it I teach them to blood trail, article search, find and retrieve lost arrows, and find sheds. They love these little games which are simply extensions of their hunting training.

    The best advice I got when I was learning training under a pro about 20 years ago is to let pups be pups. Let them explore, fiddle in shallow water, learn to potty outdoors, learn what they can chew & what they can't, just learn their world. Around 9-10 weeks a couple times a day I do puppy bumpers (mini-paint rollers work well for this) in a hallway with no open doors. I hold the pup then show them & tease them a bit with the puppy bumper, then toss it a couple feet in front. The pup will want almost from the start run and grab it but their inclination is to keep it and will look for a place to take it. Call it back, when it comes, praise it up, gently take the bumper, and repeat. Do no more than 2 tosses twice a day, then put the bumper up. The pup never gets to use the bumper as a toy, and you always want to stop with it wanting one more try. You will be amazed how quickly your lab pup puts it together and starts bringing it back for another throw. As it gets older and you take this game outside, use a light check cord on it's collar to "reel" him/her in as it will try to run away with the bumper (remember, it's instinct is to keep what it catches, not give it to you).

    For waterfowl gundog training help, there is no better place than the Gundog Forum on The Duck Hunter's Refuge. Decades and decades of experience there, and they are willing to share...
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    Ive always owned labs.You dont have to train them.Just 100's of hours in the field every year, and they dial in real well.When they are 4 months old, throw a retrieving dummy, with wing attatched, and fire 410.

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