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Thread: North Dakota access is in jeapardy please help

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRITTMAN View Post
    Fairly sure this is being set up to be ready for the Federal Government land sale / transfer ... if / when it occurs. This is an issue across the west.

    That makes sense.

    Here in Iowa, when land was going for $10,000 an acre and corn prices were going up, the legislature tried to pass a bill to sell off what little public hunting land we have so it could be farmed too.

    Once it's gone we won't get it back.
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    In my opinion, these two bills will dramatically affecting hunting in ND. That affect will impact conservation and small town economies.

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    I may be wrong here and I am sure someone will correct me if I am, but I believe that in Montana you used to be able to hunt upland birds if the land wasn't posted. Than they changed the law and the landowners got annoyed with all the people they had to deal with when they were trying to get the fall work done. I believe the end result was that the landowners went to the state and got the state to enact the block management program. The state put the signs up and gave you contact info, than you tracked the landowner down and got a permission slip. If I remember most of the time they would give me a slip good for 3 days so they didn't have to deal with hunters as much. I also was lead to believe that the landowner was reimbursed based on the number of hunters he gave permission to. Was cumbersome but actually opened up more land. The big benefit was a state sign with the where and when and how to contact the owner who ultimately had the say so as to whether to let you on their land.

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    So how many of you have sent an email to the politicians email addresses explaining how you feel

    We need your help now!!

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    Joel Heitkamp is hosting three groups who are pushing to get this bill passed on his radio show at 0900 today. Call in comments will be taken. 701-237-5848. Call in about 10 to 9 to make sure your opposition gets registered. You know these groups will have their supporters lined up calling. KFGO 790 out of Fargo.

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    A group of us went duck hunting west of grand forks last fall. The vast majority of land is posted and it is going more so every year. A few spots we called landowners and got permission, others we were unable to get a hold of anyone. The last morning of the trip my buddy scouted a good field, loaded with mallards and a few geese. Called and got permission from a friendly land owner. We showed up the next morning and there was a large group of hunters already setting up there. They had talked to some guy who was out in the field in a pickup the night before and got permission. The actual owner we talked to lived in MN. We yielded the field to them as they had most of their spread out already. We left ND deflated and decided next year to just go through an outfitter in western MN, which won't be that much more since we'll save $$$ on licenses, gas, and the pain of trying to find who owns what and how the hell to get a hold of them. Oh, and the day before some old guy drove out screaming at us for driving on his unposted, picked field, that was dry as a bone, no ruts whatsoever. We weren't even sure if he owned the land, we just left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
    A group of us went duck hunting west of grand forks last fall. The vast majority of land is posted and it is going more so every year. A few spots we called landowners and got permission, others we were unable to get a hold of anyone. The last morning of the trip my buddy scouted a good field, loaded with mallards and a few geese. Called and got permission from a friendly land owner. We showed up the next morning and there was a large group of hunters already setting up there. They had talked to some guy who was out in the field in a pickup the night before and got permission. The actual owner we talked to lived in MN. We yielded the field to them as they had most of their spread out already. We left ND deflated and decided next year to just go through an outfitter in western MN, which won't be that much more since we'll save $$$ on licenses, gas, and the pain of trying to find who owns what and how the hell to get a hold of them. Oh, and the day before some old guy drove out screaming at us for driving on his unposted, picked field, that was dry as a bone, no ruts whatsoever. We weren't even sure if he owned the land, we just left.
    This is exactly what the outfitters driving this law hope you do. They want people to drive another nail in free lance huntings coffin.

    They canít wait to charge you to hunt the publicís game animal something they legally donít own

    It very discouraging to watch hunting become a sport for the elite.

    And fwiw You are not supposed to drive on anyoneís fields without their permission

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    Rewritten bill is a bigger mess and pro guide /outfitter. It will essentially create more problems than ever before. Expected to go to Senate floor for a vote next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy Ike View Post
    I am worried about the future if this passes. It is going to be a different world down the road. Farms are getting larger and people that live out of state are inheriting land that is being rented to these large farms. It will be very hard to get a hold of someone who is farming over 10,000 acres and working hard in Oct. to wrap up their harvest. They even farm land 20-30 miles away from where they live. People don't answer phones any more without knowing the number calling. Unlike SD ditches are not automatically open to hunting.

    The people who I have permission to hunt from are not young. In fact one recently passed away. Without access to unposted land the future looks pretty murky as far as hunting opportunities go. I know my ONX
    app shows landowners that have passed away years ago. That can't always be counted on.
    That's a bs law. Montana passed it 20 years ago.Lost some great hunting over that bs law!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobman View Post
    here more info about this and where I cross posted from

    it will help you understand what is at risk

    http://uplandjournal.ipbhost.com/top...-nd-maybe-not/


    the commercialization of hunting is going to be the end of hunting for the common man, access Nation wide is rapidly being restricted by the commercialization of hunting
    That is absolutely right! Pay hunting is going to ruin hunting itself.That is the point I have been so eloquently trying to make on this site for years, but nobody believes it

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