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    Default North Dakota access is in jeapardy please help

    this is happening now so please help North Dakota has great access and the special interests are trying to shut it down go to the bottom and copy the email addresses of all the state senators and tell them to vote no


    ND's current hunting law for trespass is that you can hunt private land that is not specifically posted No Hunting. Our current law has stood for ninety years. That may change with SB-2315, just introduced in the ND State Legislature.



    If you hunt ND then the ND sportsmen need your help and you will help yourself too. Last summer I attended a series of meetings held with the ND Stockmen's Asc. , ND Game & Fish, and various state hunting organizations.



    The Stockmen are bring a NO HUNTING/NO TRESPASS bill into the legislature that would automatically post all private land. It failed last session by a 2/3 majority. This bill is regularly defeated in previous sessions but this time it is being heard in the Ag Committee, instead of Natural Resources. Pretty tricky. No doubt it will pass in committee and go to a floor vote. It is the same blueprint used last year in Idaho by ag groups there to shut down access.



    THE BILL IS BEING FAST TRACKED THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE TO BYPASS SPORTSMEN OPPOSITION.



    If passed, public hunting access will crumble as 93% of ND is private land. The Stockmen's Asc. are working on the theory that you don't have to ban guns, just make ammo inaccessible and get the same result. Then public hunting in ND will be pay-to-play. Money is the motivator.



    The ND Wildlife Federation, ND Bowhunter's Asc., United Sportsmen of ND, ND Sportsmen's Etree and many county and local wildlife clubs oppose this bill. But we need help.



    The dollars visiting sportsmen spend at local businesses while here make an impact with legislators as all legislative districts receive tourism revenue during hunting season. Food, beverage, lodging, & fuel are big expenses.



    The bill # is SB-2315. Underlined portions are the new bill language if you wish to read it:

    https://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/66...0896-01000.pdf



    Let our State Senators know your thoughts on SB-2315, No Hunting/No Trespass, polite and concise. This is the email block for all ND State Senators:




    hcanderson@nd.gov , jbakke@nd.gov , bbekkedahl@nd.gov , raburckhard@nd.gov , dclemens@nd.gov , dcook@nd.gov , kdavison@nd.gov , ddever@nd.gov , jdotzenrod@nd.gov , madwyer@nd.gov , jayelkin@nd.gov , rerbele@nd.gov , rfors@nd.gov , jgrabinger@nd.gov , jheckaman@nd.gov , khogan@nd.gov , dhogue@nd.gov , rholmberg@nd.gov , jkannianen@nd.gov , jklein@nd.gov , kkrebsbach@nd.gov , ckreun@nd.gov , olarsen@nd.gov , dklarson@nd.gov , galee@nd.gov , jlee@nd.gov , lluick@nd.gov , rmarcellais@nd.gov , tmathern@nd.gov , scottmeyer@nd.gov , jmyrdal@nd.gov , eoban@nd.gov , doehlke@nd.gov , aosland@nd.gov , dpatten@nd.gov , mpiepkorn@nd.gov , npoolman@nd.gov , lrobinson@nd.gov , jroers@nd.gov , kroers@nd.gov , drust@nd.gov , dgschaible@nd.gov , rsorvaag@nd.gov , jkunruh@nd.gov , svedaa@nd.gov , tmwanzek@nd.gov , rwardner@nd.gov





    Your help is appreciated by most everyone who hunts in ND. If you frequent other hunting boards pass this on.

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    Never knew this aspect prior to joining here. Is North Dakota unique in the way it currently is regarding private land posting?

    Interesting.

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    Yes the current law is if itís not posted and there are no standing crops you may hunt it without having to find the owner.

    The commercial hunting lobby is trying to turn it into another South Dakota / Texas

    As most people are aware finding land owners can be very difficult so the current North Dakota system is really hunter friendly

    FWIW if the landowner is available I always ask as a curtesy.

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    At the risk of being cannibalized on here I don't think anyone should have an automatic right to trespass on someone else property without expressed permission. Yes I am an out of state hunter

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    As it is, most large tracts of land are posted with the landowners name and phone number. Calling usually results in the comment that they are saving it for deer season and that you are welcome to hunt it after the deer season. This will mostly affect those small bunch of cattails that extend from Plots or public land into the adjacent wheat stubble. If it is not posted it is fair to walk through. In the few cases where I have seen a farmer and asked, they could care less or mention that there is another patch on the other side of the road that usually holds birds. The way the system is set up has worked well for years, unfortunately as bobman says this is probably based in making North Dakota like South Dakota with more pay to play areas. Finding a landowner to get permission is tough, often times the land is rented to someone else and than you have to find them. OnX is a great program to tell you who is paying taxes, but doesn't give you the cell number of the person farming it. As a nonresident I don't feel I have or should have much say in how residents run their state. All I know is that changing the law will make access harder and especially turn off younger hunters who don't have the time or money to track down landowners who in most cases could care less. Passing this law change will be a big step in the wrong direction for the small time family hunter with limited time and financial resources.

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    FWIW this plea for help preserving the current law came from ND resident hunter organizations
    This rule benefits all hunters

    They are asking for our help all you need to do is take 5 minutes to compose a email

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobman View Post
    FWIW this plea for help preserving the current law came from ND resident hunter organizations
    This rule benefits all hunters

    They are asking for our help all you need to do is take 5 minutes to compose a email
    unless a name and phone number is posted, it is almost impossible to find a landowner.
    in the end, the state will see hunter revenue plummet.

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    I just sent an email to all the senators. I haven't hunted ND yet, but I do plan to in the future. I have spent time in ND on work assignments, and from talking to locals it seems that the trespass laws have worked just fine for quite a long time.

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    here more info about this and where I cross posted from

    it will help you understand what is at risk

    http://uplandjournal.ipbhost.com/top...-nd-maybe-not/


    the commercialization of hunting is going to be the end of hunting for the common man, access Nation wide is rapidly being restricted by the commercialization of hunting
    Last edited by bobman; 01-25-2019 at 08:29 AM.

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    I am worried about the future if this passes. It is going to be a different world down the road. Farms are getting larger and people that live out of state are inheriting land that is being rented to these large farms. It will be very hard to get a hold of someone who is farming over 10,000 acres and working hard in Oct. to wrap up their harvest. They even farm land 20-30 miles away from where they live. People don't answer phones any more without knowing the number calling. Unlike SD ditches are not automatically open to hunting.

    The people who I have permission to hunt from are not young. In fact one recently passed away. Without access to unposted land the future looks pretty murky as far as hunting opportunities go. I know my ONX
    app shows landowners that have passed away years ago. That can't always be counted on.
    Last edited by Lazy Ike; 01-25-2019 at 08:45 AM.

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