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    Just purchased a new Sweet Sixteen 28" and cycled about 100 rounds on a grouse course shooting skeet. Love the gun,love it's weight. But oddly the gun jammed once (shooting RIO ammo), and the trigger stuck once. Both were easily addressed and I continued to shoot. I did take the gun apart before initially shooting it and cleaned and lubed all aspects of the action.

    I have a question which I can't seem to find an answer to on the Browning website. The gun came with shims to alter the cast and drop, and also to increase the length of pull. Shooting the gun as I received it assembled was fine. Was hitting clay no problem. But how do you know or gauge if you need to alter either of the details mentioned above. Is it simply a "how it feels" thing or is there a physical way to check to see if indeed I need to increase/alter either characteristic and make use of the supplied shims?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

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    If you are hitting the target(s) perhaps no adjustment is necessary. The "adjustment shims" can alter the stock fit, if the gun doesn't seem to fit you. You might try and experiment and add shims - see if it makes a difference; if you are doing well without, I would leave it alone.

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    The basic question is "is it shooting to Point of Aim"? If you are breaking targets consistently without special effort to position your head down on the stock, etc., etc. (in other words if you break them consistently by just using your normal gun mount) then your gun is likely shooting to your point of aim and you need no shims.

    If you want to check POI, this is a pretty good description of how to do it and how to shim to change POI. There are YouTube videos out there and lots of articles about Shotgun Fit or Changing Point of Aim on a shotgun.

    http://www.deadtargetschool.com/PAT%20BOARD%20GUIDE.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chestle View Post
    The basic question is "is it shooting to Point of Aim"? If you are breaking targets consistently without special effort to position your head down on the stock, etc., etc. (in other words if you break them consistently by just using your normal gun mount) then your gun is likely shooting to your point of aim and you need no shims.

    If you want to check POI, this is a pretty good description of how to do it and how to shim to change POI. There are YouTube videos out there and lots of articles about Shotgun Fit or Changing Point of Aim on a shotgun.

    http://www.deadtargetschool.com/PAT%20BOARD%20GUIDE.pdf
    That is really helpful......thank you!

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    You're welcome. Here's another one that might even be a better explanation:

    https://www.fieldandstream.com/use-s...om-fit-shotgun

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    Gave it a go this morning. Seem to be pretty darn good as a stock gun without altering the gun with the shims. This was 25 yards 3 shots of 7 1/2 RIO.....may try to add 1 shim and shoot the gun again

    Shot 95% today with the clays
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    Looks like the stock set up puts the POA a bit high; nothing wrong with that, that is how I set all my shotguns up. It let's me see the bird over the rib. In my youth I had a Winchester Model 12 Featherweight (well, I still have it) that required me to totally cover the bird (too much drop in the stock) in order to hit it. I never did like that approach.

    If you're shooting 95%...don't touch nothing! If it ain't broke, don't go trying to fix it!

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    QUOTE=Chestle;249113]Looks like the stock set up puts the POA a bit high; nothing wrong with that, that is how I set all my shotguns up. It let's me see the bird over the rib. In my youth I had a Winchester Model 12 Featherweight (well, I still have it) that required me to totally cover the bird (too much drop in the stock) in order to hit it. I never did like that approach.

    If you're shooting 95%...don't touch nothing! If it ain't broke, don't go trying to fix it! [/QUOTE]That's a great point!! I'm happy with how it shoots, and how I can bust the clays. Hope to try it out on the weekend on the pheasant skeet course. That will allow me to reach out to some clays further out. Forgot to mention that was with a Browning Skeet Choke

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    May I ask what choke you patterned this with? At 25 yards that pattern would indicate you had a pretty open constriction. If you want a better picture of POI whether side to side or up and down in relation to your point of aim use a tight choke, Full if you have one, otherwise a modified.

    My guess from looking at that pattern is the gun is shooting roughly 65/35 high, but it appears some of the pellets went off the board on the top side. Full choke will give a much better picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ditch-chicken View Post
    Gave it a go this morning. Seem to be pretty darn good as a stock gun without altering the gun with the shims. This was 25 yards 3 shots of 7 1/2 RIO.....may try to add 1 shim and shoot the gun again

    Shot 95% today with the clays
    Shoot the gun as is for a while as one round is not a tell all. Try and vary the type of target presentations e.g straight away, rising, falling, crossing and quartering. Note how you do on each. If you continue to have good success than I agree the gun likely fits you well enough not to mess with.
    Last edited by birdshooter; 01-15-2019 at 03:11 PM.

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