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    I wonder if 14 is the world record for number of dogs/guy in SD this year?!?!
    "Most pheasants in South Dakota don't react too well to #5s." -The Hunt for Red Rooster

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    A5,

    That would be a interesting question to use for a poll. I look at it as I want to use all my resources(dogs). They all hunt a little different based on the situation we are in. They all compliment each other if I run a group as well. The most I had on the ground at once this year was 5.

    Our ruffled grouse population at home in WI was terrible this year. SD gives dogs volume of contact which normally can make a huge difference in their development. I run pups as young as six months if they can handle it. I am a firm believer that the earlier the exposure the better it is. Also the young pups pick up so much from the older dogs. I know running young with old is a divided conversation with guys but I believe in it.

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    5?!!? Where's your sense of adventure?! lol. Next year shoot for double digits at least.
    But I'm with you, the more birds a dog is exposed to, the better, which is why my goal is to hunt my dogs 25 times a season. Lo & behold, they figure out pheasants. But 2 springers at a time is more than nerve wracking enough for me. One good one is about all my brain can handle.
    "Most pheasants in South Dakota don't react too well to #5s." -The Hunt for Red Rooster

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    Wow what a difference a storm makes. I was shedding clothes on my last trip out there in mid Dec. just never seem to hit it right.
    Chad, there were plenty of ruffies in N WI this past Fall. 👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by UplandHntr View Post
    Wow what a difference a storm makes. I was shedding clothes on my last trip out there in mid Dec. just never seem to hit it right.
    Chad, there were plenty of ruffies in N WI this past Fall. 👍🏻
    The first part of the week we hunted in a long sleeve shirt and vest WED-FRI was a very different story with the weather that rolled through the area- winter gear for sure! But by last weekend it was back a long sleeve shirt hunting in 6" of snow and the birds were grouped.

    We got into grouse and woodcock this fall just not like in previous years. A lot of birds this year we did get were very small birds, late hatch. Between the spring and having snow into may and then relentless rains early it didn't help the overall numbers in my area in WI. Now they are contributing west nile to the lower numbers with finding it in grouse in the UP of MI. I don't know if this really is a thing but they are talking about it. We got our contacts without a doubt just didn't seem like past years. Did I get into the woods as much as I would of liked, no not by any means. Laying concrete and building new kennels late summer into fall consumed a lot of time.

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    Those look like some awesome dogs, I hunted with Quailhound’s Setter and was truly impressed with it, how does the Gordon hunt in a similar fashion? Both my neighbors have Gordon’s, looks like you and your dogs were killing it in South Dakota, nice work, good times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTM View Post
    Those look like some awesome dogs, I hunted with Quailhound’s Setter and was truly impressed with it, how does the Gordon hunt in a similar fashion? Both my neighbors have Gordon’s, looks like you and your dogs were killing it in South Dakota, nice work, good times!
    Second trip was a good time. A lot of miles walked but we found birds which makes walking all them miles worth it. My female Gordan Riley hunts extremely well for her age- just shy of a year old. I have raised English setters for 20+ years and finally moved into the country and said I would own a Gordan when I made that move, so I bought two instead of one, go figure. It was concerning getting into Gordans because I knew nothing about them, but finding the right pups after months of research has a big smile on my face now. I am quite impressed with the breed and especially Riley. She fits right into the mix and the only difference I see is her color now.
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    nice report and pics!

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    I don't mean this as a knock to you and your 14 dogs, but as an opportunity for me to learn different hunting styles/techniques. Hopefully I can phrase this questions correctly.

    If your goal is to get as many bird contacts as possible, but you rotate dogs each day, and have 14 of them. Wouldn't you rather have fewer dogs that get more time on the ground to increase their bird contacts than more dogs that each get less time on the ground?

    I am content with my 1 dog and his ability to hunt 3-4 day stretches in SD and getting bird contact from 10am - sunset. If I were to take him on a trip but only run him 1 or 2 days of the trip and keep him kenneled for the remainder of the days, I feel like I would be doing him a disservice and not getting him the quality bird exposure needed?

    In my mind, 2-3 dogs would probably be perfect and having the ability to rotate them through fields, let one rest, have a backup plan incase one gets injured, etc. What is the reasoning behind 14? Again, no wrong answer - I just want to educate myself. My guess is your answer is you simply love birddogs, watching them work, training them, raising them, etc. - which if I had the time, money, resources, etc. I'd probably enjoy that as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackrabbit View Post
    I don't mean this as a knock to you and your 14 dogs, but as an opportunity for me to learn different hunting styles/techniques. Hopefully I can phrase this questions correctly.

    If your goal is to get as many bird contacts as possible, but you rotate dogs each day, and have 14 of them. Wouldn't you rather have fewer dogs that get more time on the ground to increase their bird contacts than more dogs that each get less time on the ground?

    I am content with my 1 dog and his ability to hunt 3-4 day stretches in SD and getting bird contact from 10am - sunset. If I were to take him on a trip but only run him 1 or 2 days of the trip and keep him kenneled for the remainder of the days, I feel like I would be doing him a disservice and not getting him the quality bird exposure needed?

    In my mind, 2-3 dogs would probably be perfect and having the ability to rotate them through fields, let one rest, have a backup plan incase one gets injured, etc. What is the reasoning behind 14? Again, no wrong answer - I just want to educate myself. My guess is your answer is you simply love birddogs, watching them work, training them, raising them, etc. - which if I had the time, money, resources, etc. I'd probably enjoy that as well!

    Well back home I have a real job that pays the bills. My wife runs our dog business day to day and I work the dogs to see what they have for abilities. We currently have 14 dogs in various stages of development. 2 are retired at 11 & 12 years old and hunt some, I have one female due for pups mid month that I didn't hunt, then I have various dogs in the range of 6 months to 8 years old.

    I want all my dogs to hunt first, pass their health clearances, and then be brought into the breeding program if it works out that way after 2 years old. I own a house in SD and have the kennels setup to handle the dogs so I bring them all and decide day by day which dogs to work based on the what dog I feel needs more exposure and the terrain we will be hunting. Even rotating this volume of dogs they get a ton more exposure than they would back home even after training on quail and running the grouse/woodcock woods back home. All our dogs are like our kids/family and I would feel quilty not taking them to SD and leaving them home in WI. They all deserve to be there and experience SD after working and training all summer long. The program works and we have made a pretty good name for ourselves over the years by following it. Hope this answers your question? And last I love everything birddog and couldn't imagine my life without them, there is nothing more rewarding than watching the light switch go off with a young dog. I am sure a lot of others can relate to this.
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