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    Quote Originally Posted by s.davis View Post
    Tell him. You don’t have to berate him or accuse him or guilt trip him, but nothing is gained by pussy-footing around.
    True - but the fine line I struggle with is he's let me hunt there out of his kindness - he doesnt hunt, never has per my knowledge and had never seen a prairie chicken until a few years ago I shot one and showed it to him - he was dead certain I'd be bringing him a hen pheasant He grew up there and wasnt sure what was what so it's not something he knows much about or seems to care to...second part of that is it's his land and I dont want to overstep boundaries - guess I've struggled how to bring it up - he's a korean war veteran and we have a significant difference in age - so I struggle with the whole respect your elders thing and keep your mouth shut thing too. I've had 2 or 3 farmers over the past few years that had great places then they changed their practices and they went to being bird heaven to bird wasteland rather quickly.

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    Best to drop it.

    However it seems you have more than a casual relationship with him. It would be entirely proper to ask him to refer you to someone he may know that has ground you could hunt. Similar to what he had. Maybe make a call for you. Give him a gift card as a thank you for past hunts. Or maybe you did at the time.

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    You could offer to pay him the revenue the cows produce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsingbob View Post
    You could offer to pay him the revenue the cows produce.
    We talked about that. He planted milo the last several years and lost 4 cows last year due to bloat which was actually caused by the milo from what he told me, which is why he switched from milo to just straight grass this year. It is something he is considering. Haven't heard back yet on it though.
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    Interesting. I have cows out here in Idaho, but no milo in this area. I do not doubt what he is telling you but I am surprised it causes bloat. (I assume he grazed it in late fall/winter after the milo was combined.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsingbob View Post
    Interesting. I have cows out here in Idaho, but no milo in this area. I do not doubt what he is telling you but I am surprised it causes bloat. (I assume he grazed it in late fall/winter after the milo was combined.)
    Yes grazed after it was combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McFarmer View Post
    Best to drop it.

    However it seems you have more than a casual relationship with him. It would be entirely proper to ask him to refer you to someone he may know that has ground you could hunt. Similar to what he had. Maybe make a call for you. Give him a gift card as a thank you for past hunts. Or maybe you did at the time.
    I always did - I call him once a year to chat - I didnt end up hunting his ground last year due to life events and moving.buying a business etc but called to catch up around this time. he still does have 80 acres and a quarter next door that always have birds - just not worth driving what is now 4-4.5 hours one way or so to hunt for about 6 hours...if I had other private ground around it'd be worth it but no WIHA worth a crap in the area anymore - it's all slowly went away the past 5-7 years or so. 2016 and before I was only 2 hrs away. I've wanted to help him around the farm and have casually mentioned it but he has a helper and it seemed I may get in the way. Not sure - I probably need to have called again around harvest -- I've tried to give him a goodie basket of sorts every year when i've always hunted in the past - think he first let me hunt back in 2001 or 2002 or so. Cant remember been so long ago but yet seems like yesterday. I'll have to ask him about the referral next time we talk. Have never asked him for one. He flew fighter jets in the Korean war - can't remember which one. Half the time I enjoy learning the farmers stories - some have had some pretty interesting ones. Few others I've yet to learn or maybe never will.


    Sorry for hijacking the thread Mark - it's just I can relate - and apologize for the run on and fragmented sentences above - just typed the thoughts out above as they came to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McFarmer View Post
    Best to drop it.
    Like hell it is. A man too sensitive to hear the truth ain't worth talking to again, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.davis View Post
    Like hell it is. A man too sensitive to hear the truth ain't worth talking to again, anyway.
    The rest of my reply might help clarify my position.

    However.

    I guess if a person wanted to give me their opinion on something that isn’t any business of theirs they could look forward to no help from me. If a hunter came onto my land and berated me on my management practices they and most likely their fellow hunters would find it hard to gain any cooperation from me.

    The author has handled it correctly in my opinion. Sometimes a person needs to know their place, for their own benefit.

    I imagine there are differing opinions.

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    I'd feel like I owed a person kind enough to let me hunt their land, who then said something to me like "I don't understand where all the birds went" the favor of honesty, even if was uncomfortable. The rest of my reply also clarified my position, specifically that you needn't berate or guilt trip a farmer to be honest with him. Anybody who told me to "know my place" would also get a pretty honest response from me.

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