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    As a former wildlife biologist who worked quite a bit with pheasants, how exactly do you identify a 5 year old bird?? Anyway...multiple studies on pheasants show that 90% of a populationís roosters can be killed without affecting the following yearís reproduction/population. Ring-necked pheasants are highly polygamous and aggressive breeders.

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    Oh BTW, a high percentage of yearling roosters in the hatch is indicative of a good hatch. Years with a high percentage of 1-1/2 year old birds (or older - rare) are indicative of a poor hatch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshrat View Post
    As a former wildlife biologist who worked quite a bit with pheasants, how exactly do you identify a 5 year old bird?? Anyway...multiple studies on pheasants show that 90% of a population’s roosters can be killed without affecting the following year’s reproduction/population. Ring-necked pheasants are highly polygamous and aggressive breeders.
    Well said marshrat. I just came from the Hi-Line where there is good habitat we found good bird numbers. I am not going to be bullied by anyone to stop hunting pheasants. Neither my dog or myself are getting any younger. Assuming there is a good habitat, when weather cooperators numbers will recover.
    "It takes birds to make a bird dog"

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    You may want to consider why it is that so many locals who actually live up here on the Hiline put our shotguns away this year. No BS, just the truth. Think about this also, when your out stomping around the "good habitat" you found, how many hen's do you flush from that secure habitat into sparse habitat where they are easier prey for hawks, owls, and eagles? I chose to be a conservationist instead of a hunter for pheasants and hun's this fall, not bullying anyone, just stating my opinion, which is based on actually living in the place you visit occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Husker View Post
    You may want to consider why it is that so many locals who actually live up here on the Hiline put our shotguns away this year. No BS, just the truth. Think about this also, when your out stomping around the "good habitat" you found, how many hen's do you flush from that secure habitat into sparse habitat where they are easier prey for hawks, owls, and eagles? I chose to be a conservationist instead of a hunter for pheasants and hun's this fall, not bullying anyone, just stating my opinion, which is based on actually living in the place you visit occasionally.
    I've hunted the high line, I've hunted around Roy, I've hunted out east, helk, I've hunted the flint creek valley, and I agree, birds are down. That being said, I've only been skunked a few times, and I hunt a lot.Central has been good this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Husker View Post
    You may want to consider why it is that so many locals who actually live up here on the Hiline put our shotguns away this year. No BS, just the truth. Think about this also, when your out stomping around the "good habitat" you found, how many hen's do you flush from that secure habitat into sparse habitat where they are easier prey for hawks, owls, and eagles? I chose to be a conservationist instead of a hunter for pheasants and hun's this fall, not bullying anyone, just stating my opinion, which is based on actually living in the place you visit occasionally.
    You know buffalo used to roam the prairies and were more plentiful than any other land beast. Now they are all but extinct except for a few isolated pockets of herds that are mangaged more like cattle. Yet they are still hunted and killed in Montana. And if I'm not mistaken you were posing with one as well that you took last year. And that's fine with me. Congrats. But shooting an animal that if not managed would be gone completely and then telling others to put away their guns because numbers are down is very hypocritical in my opinion. I've been to Montana too. Plenty of birds and numerous species to hunt. And from the amount we saw compared to the amount we killed. No way we even put a dent in them even in the smaller areas. So I think that is where people feel the bullying is. That and only being able to shoot roosters...Not going to hurt the population to the point of no recovery.
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    Those golden eagles sure do kill a lot of birds!!I have one living on my place, he's as big as an airplane, and he's a prolific hunter.I like to watch him, and I've given him birds, but he kills everything on the place.

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