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    Default Grain Free Dog Foods under fire?

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    The issue doesn’t appear to the fact that grains aren’t present but what is present. “Diets in cases reported to the FDA frequently list potatoes or multiple legumes such as peas, lentils, other “pulses” (seeds of legumes), and their protein, starch and fiber derivatives early in the ingredient list, indicating that they are main ingredients.” https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary.../ucm613305.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altillathedak View Post
    The issue doesn’t appear to the fact that grains aren’t present but what is present. “Diets in cases reported to the FDA frequently list potatoes or multiple legumes such as peas, lentils, other “pulses” (seeds of legumes), and their protein, starch and fiber derivatives early in the ingredient list, indicating that they are main ingredients.” https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary.../ucm613305.htm
    exactly. consumers complained about the excessive use of corn in dog food, so to keep it cheap and counter the complaints, the makers substituted legumes and potatoes, especially peas, yellow peas, chick peas and pea flour, which is evidently worse than the grain.......it's always about filler and keeping costs down. the jury is still out, investigation began in June, but there does appear to be a problem.
    the dog food manufactures need to reveal the % of filler in their respective foods. we have no way of knowing how much "filler" is in the food we buy. even the high end brands, in fact almost all the grain free foods have peas and potatoes in them....if the findings are conclusive, the whole dog food industry is going to be turned upside down.......the only alternative is feeding your own ingredients at home.

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    Seems to me this is a case of crying wolf. That report is very inconclusive. I don't know why they would put something like this out until they have more information.

    I do have an interest as I am currently feeding my Brittany, who is an allergy dog, a grain-free, limited ingredient food that contains peas, pea flour and chickpeas. But I'm not going to worry about it until there is some concrete evidence that it's a problem. Besides, it appears to be more of a problem in large breeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotazeb View Post
    Seems to me this is a case of crying wolf. That report is very inconclusive. I don't know why they would put something like this out until they have more information.

    I do have an interest as I am currently feeding my Brittany, who is an allergy dog, a grain-free, limited ingredient food that contains peas, pea flour and chickpeas. But I'm not going to worry about it until there is some concrete evidence that it's a problem. Besides, it appears to be more of a problem in large breeds.
    i guess we need to just keep reading, there is quite a bit of info out there already with more to follow. at the very least peas, lentils and potatoes are mainly cheap fillers......so was/is corn/wheat, but all this stuff is still selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotazeb View Post
    Seems to me this is a case of crying wolf. That report is very inconclusive. I don't know why they would put something like this out until they have more information.

    I do have an interest as I am currently feeding my Brittany, who is an allergy dog, a grain-free, limited ingredient food that contains peas, pea flour and chickpeas. But I'm not going to worry about it until there is some concrete evidence that it's a problem. Besides, it appears to be more of a problem in large breeds.
    The problem seems to primarily effect Goldens. My vet is a breeder of Goldens and has been apprehensive of "grain free" diets for years. While I'm sure their are dogs that have grain allergies I think a lot of people feed it because it is trendy or cool in their mind. The less I worry about food the better my dogs do
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    I never put any stock in the grain-free foods until I got an allergy dog. And I'm still not sure that grains are the issue. The cause of allergies in dogs is extremely difficult to determine and in most cases impossible. In many cases it's not the grains to blame but the protein source. I'm sure that 95%+ of the dogs out there do not need grain-free food.
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    In the 50s and 60s my mother raised dogs, she made all her own dog food. Entirely of grains, ground beef trimmings and molasses.

    She cooked it in the basement, man that smelled good enough to eat myself.

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    I've been following this same subject on another forum. It appears the issue is a lack of Taurine in the diet. Taurine is a form of amino acid. Here's another site that explains things pretty good. http://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2018/0...c-ingredients/
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    Quote Originally Posted by McFarmer View Post
    In the 50s and 60s my mother raised dogs, she made all her own dog food. Entirely of grains, ground beef trimmings and molasses.

    She cooked it in the basement, man that smelled good enough to eat myself.
    I thought about making my own out of the deer I shoot.

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