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    Default Number five steel

    Hunting on opening day I had a rooster get up and present a straight away shot. I'm useing 2.75 20 ga with 7/8 oz of steel #5. Two shots and blew feathers each time, first shot maybe 25 yards, second a little more. He never slowed down.

    Question then did that shot coming right up his backside just not have enough power to penetrate to a vital region ? Or was it a one of deal ?

    Two others that day fell dead with the same 1100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFarmer View Post
    Hunting on opening day I had a rooster get up and present a straight away shot. I'm useing 2.75 20 ga with 7/8 oz of steel #5. Two shots and blew feathers each time, first shot maybe 25 yards, second a little more. He never slowed down.

    Question then did that shot coming right up his backside just not have enough power to penetrate to a vital region ? Or was it a one of deal ?

    Two others that day fell dead with the same 1100.
    Roosters are easy to hit straight away, but tough to put on the ground. This is why I refer to them as roostards. First, what's the muzzle velocity of the steel? IMHO, you should be shooting no less than 1,350-1,400, if not a tad faster. And then I'd switch to 3's. Lots of people even swear by steel 2's. Do you have a decent dog? If not, I'd switch to a 12 gauge, 1-1/8 oz load. Again, fast & 3's or 2's. I fear shooting 20 ga. steel at roosters, you run a serious risk of having quite a few runners.

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    I have killed a number of pheasants from my 20 ga sxs using 7/8 ounce # 5 Kent upland steel at 1500 fps . I load the open tube with the 5's and the tight tube with 3 " load with one ounce of steel 3's about 1350 Fps . This is my combo quail and pheasant . When it's all pheasant #3 one ounce Hevi-metal .

    If you hit the bird a little low his is going to keep on going . I like to be on The top edge on going away bird . . shot hits him in the back and in the back of thr head

    Let us how you come out !!!!.

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    A pheasant has a large tough, muscular gizzard that protects its vital organs from a shot to the rear.

    As KSBrittman said, you need to target the top of the bird to avoid the gizzard and hit the head/vitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSBrittman View Post
    I have killed a number of pheasants from my 20 ga sxs using 7/8 ounce # 5 Kent upland steel at 1500 fps . I load the open tube with the 5's and the tight tube with 3 " load with one ounce of steel 3's about 1350 Fps . This is my combo quail and pheasant . When it's all pheasant #3 one ounce Hevi-metal .

    If you hit the bird a little low his is going to keep on going . I like to be on The top edge on going away bird . . shot hits him in the back and in the back of thr head

    Let us how you come out !!!!.
    That's the shell I was useing.

    As far as the low shooting goes that might be a possibility. I shoot a lot of trap and I have a hard time covering the bird when I need to with a field gun.

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    I won't use STEEL anymore. I have seen the same scenario before I started using
    Hevi Shot.

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    I shoot Kent Fasteel #5 and straight away shots I’ve found there are two ways to put a bird down. One is in the head, the other is in the ass from point blank range but you will have nothing left of the bird. If you body shot the bird seems to fold like it’s wounded but when it hits the ground it just keeps running

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    Here's an article that may answer your question. If your gun is a mag, I would suggest that you go to 3" 1 oz loads with #2 or #3 steel.

    http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/...7889&mobile=on

    Good luck!

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    [QUOTE=theuplandlife;238065]I won't use STEEL anymore. I have seen the same scenario before I started using
    Hevi Shot.[/QUOTE

    You had your waning referee put this man in the penalty box.

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    I switched to 100% steel shot last season because I didn't want to find myself in the middle of public ground carrying a vest and gun full of lead. I hunt with a 20 gauge OU and shoot exclusively 2 3/4" 7/8 with 6 shot. Everyone I hunt with use 12 gauges and they shoot lead with 5 shot in private and steel duck loads with 4 shot in public. This is purely subjective but I really don't see a difference in number of birds shot and in the vest between us. It seems to me like when we are on target the birds fall and it is either dead or it is mortally wounded and the dogs find them very close to where they fall. I am not saying at all that we haven't lost a few birds but that it is the exception rather than the rule. I think when a bird hits the ground running it has more to do with the shooter than the shell he is shooting. When I loose a bird I first look at what I did wrong and most of the time I can tell you what that was and for the most part it was my fault not my dogs, not my shotgun, not the shells just me shooting badly.
    NC IA Tail Chaser

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