To answer the OP question. for purposes of training a Lab or Springer for upland birds, the technique is exactly the same. But don't take my word for it.Get a copy of the bible, titled "Gun Dog Training for Spaniels and Retrievers", by Kenneth Roebuck. Never trained with a club as my comrades are my dogs. I just train dogs for real SD pheasant hunting, because that's as real as it gets.