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    This post has nothing to do with California bird hunting, but know there are a number of you from California here on UPH. I am trying to identify the location in this photo. The man on the left is my grandfather. He spent some time in the late 30's at his brother-in-law's ranch about 50 miles northeast of Bakersfield. The ranch is just into Tulare County on the county line with Kern County in the area just east of Sugarloaf Mountain(Alta Sierra and Kernville area). About ten years after the brother-in-law's death the ranch went to the California state YMCA camp as I recall(about 1955). Now it is a state environmental education camp for middle schoolers I believe.

    I have a feeling the photo was taken somewhere in that area.

    Maynard Reece Byrd
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    Just a waterfall with two guys on horses is hard to locate. A better hint is if you can tell us why there seems to be a bull elk standing behind them. I don't think Tule Elk get to where they have waterfalls like that and the only Roosevelt Elk back then may not have existed in Calif.
    Are you sure this was in calif? Is that a statue which seems odd to be in a location like that.
    Are you screwing with us because it looks like the ground is a different texture just behind the horses and in front of the elk? Photoshopped?
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    Kind of a head scratcher there Maynard. My initial guess is that the pic was taken somewhere near the former Buena Vista lake and the elk is a statue (the last wild tule elk were found near Buena Vista). My other guess would be somewhere on Sherman Pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quail hound View Post
    Kind of a head scratcher there Maynard. My initial guess is that the pic was taken somewhere near the former Buena Vista lake and the elk is a statue (the last wild tule elk were found near Buena Vista). My other guess would be somewhere on Sherman Pass.
    Buena Vista Lake is west of Bakersfield in ag lands with nothing like a waterfall like that. Although it's near the Tule Elk Reserve near Tupman, again no waterfall. Why would they put a statue of a Tule Elk where they didn't occur like Sherman Pass? Looks faked.

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    Look at the elks rump. It is a much lighter color than the rest of the elk which is how a live animal looks. Statues of this sort are generally cast bronze which doesn't allow differences in color like that unless they were painted. It actually looks like a mounted animal which is really out of place in that setting. Why isn't there a plaque or something to indicate the context of the statue? It's just stuck out there and guys could ride horses to it? Makes no sense at all.
    Grandpa Davie was having some fun back then and faked a photo..

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    Quite a ruse to haul a full mount up to a waterfall for a photo op.

    Tules were in Owens Valley at the time which a guy from kernville would take the pass to, there are some rugged hills just south and west of Buena Vista that could have some falls possibly, and there might've even been some rocky mountain elk in Tehachapi by then.

    I'm just trying to give out a few ideas here.
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    I suspect that the other man in the photo is my grandfather Davie's brother-in-law who was a civil engineering graduate of the University of Kansas(KU) and was the county engineer for Kern County, California, a real estate developer there in Bakersfield and Oildale and Poso Park. He was also an investor in oil wells. He owned the ranch in Tulure County north of Kernville, which is where he died in an early snow storm gathering the horses. He was a chess player and would play chess by mail taking years to complete a match. He was also a photographer and liked to make double images. There is one some where of him playing chess with himself. That fact makes me wonder if this photo is a double image. If it is I would have thought that he would not have had the elk hidden to the extent it is. The elk appears to have hide and hair, either a live animal or a full body mount. I would guess the time of the photo to be between 1935-1940. If my 101 year old mother's eyesight was good enough to see it she might be able to answer my question, but I will describe it to her and see if she might know what I am talking about.
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    It is interesting that I can find the records of the court case from 1943 online.

    http://law.justia.com/cases/californ...2d/57/753.html
    Maynard Reece Byrd
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    Here is a picture of the Tulare County ranch house taken in 2005. After Amel Stegeman's death(1945) it went to the YMCA(1955) and now a state education environmental camp for middle schoolers and the house is used as a dormitory for the camp counselors.

    Maynard Reece Byrd
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    Removing the elk as to any bearing of the picture it could be anywhere in the area. The Kern river and creeks in that area make up tons of falls, the only one I really know being "the seven teacups" which that one definitely isn't.
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