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    Silver -- I agree with A5's above comments. I...

    Silver -- I agree with A5's above comments.

    I hunt with good dogs, so I often have a #6 lead load in for my first closer shot and a #5 lead load for my follow up shot, but if I had to use one load...
  2. Here's some info I've posted before that might be...

    Here's some info I've posted before that might be helpful.

    Are you really getting any benefits from the more expensive “Premium” or “Super” pheasant loads on the market?

    Well, let’s see what...
  3. Bob -- If I only had one 12-gauge lead load to...

    Bob -- If I only had one 12-gauge lead load to use for pheasants, I would be shooting the old live pigeon load of 2 3/4-inch 1 1/4-ounce No. 5 lead at 1220fps velocity. "Best" is different for...
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    Thanks for the kind words. Here are a few of...

    Thanks for the kind words.

    Here are a few of my pattern numbers from 20- and 12-gauge lead loads, that I’ve shot pheasants with, to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get from...
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    Shoot what you like, but I shoot traditional...

    Shoot what you like, but I shoot traditional spherical steel loads when using nontoxic on pheasants. Steel shot lethality research conducted on pheasants by Tom Roster showed #2 steel to be more...
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    Edge -- Here's some info I've posted before on...

    Edge -- Here's some info I've posted before on 20-gauge pheasant loads.

    If choked appropriately, 20-gauge 1- to 1 1/4-ounce loads of lead #6s or #5s should take care of any pheasant shooting out...
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    Glad you're shooting a few patterns with your...

    Glad you're shooting a few patterns with your gun/choke/loads you want to use, so you can confirm performance. You acknowledge you were just trying to get a "general" idea of performance, but beware...
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    Shoot what you like, but I shoot steel when using...

    Shoot what you like, but I shoot steel when using nontoxic on pheasants. Steel shot lethality research conducted on pheasants by Tom Roster showed #2 steel to be more effective (at all ranges) than...
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    Interesting article John, thanks for posting the...

    Interesting article John, thanks for posting the link.

    As you can see from his data, there was little difference in choke performance when the chokes used had identical internal diameters. With...
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    Here are a few of my pattern numbers to give you...

    Here are a few of my pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance I get from various choke constrictions with a couple of 20ga pheasant reloads that I use. Of course, you'll need...
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    I would agree. You shouldn't have any problems...

    I would agree. You shouldn't have any problems killin' pheasants out to ~40 yards with 20ga 3" 1 oz. loads of #3 or #2 steel (choked appropriately), IF you can put the pattern on the front end of...
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    OK, I probably should have done something like...

    OK, I probably should have done something like that but just didn't think about it. Regardless if one is using a post- or pre-drawn circle, patterning to confirm performance is the most important...
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    A5 -- To answer your question, I don't formally...

    A5 -- To answer your question, I don't formally measure POA/POI differences but I do make a mental note of them (particularly if I'm shooting a new gun) to see if I have any POI issues. The majority...
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    Yes, there are a few minor things you can do to...

    Yes, there are a few minor things you can do to shorten shot strings. Utilizing hard high antimony shot, cushioning and protecting the shot column (wad/cup), buffering in lead loads, etc. are some...
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    Yes, the counting does get old, but I enjoy the...

    Yes, the counting does get old, but I enjoy the rest of the exercise and of course seeing the results.

    Don't want to get sidetracked on shot stings, but my take is:
    1) all loads have some...
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    I agree with Roster's comments on load velocity...

    I agree with Roster's comments on load velocity and if I think I need more pellet energy, I go up a shot size. As mentioned by others, you really need to pattern your gun/load/choke to confirm...
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    Swamp -- You might post your question on the...

    Swamp -- You might post your question on the shotgun world web site. Not saying you won't get good info on here but lots of knowledgeable folks on that site.

    I would GUESS you could use #4 steel...
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    Here's an article that may answer your question. ...

    Here's an article that may answer your question. If your gun is a mag, I would suggest that you go to 3" 1 oz loads with #2 or #3 steel.
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    As others have said, you don't need 3" steel but...

    As others have said, you don't need 3" steel but since you have some 3" #2 and #3 steel loads use one of them. The pheasants will never know the difference if you can put the pattern on their front...
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    John -- I'm glad you are having success with your...

    John -- I'm glad you are having success with your load choice. I was just trying to provide the findings from the research and let all draw their own conclusions. I wish there were more 16ga...
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    Yes, they were using 1 oz 1375 fps steel loads...

    Yes, they were using 1 oz 1375 fps steel loads but you can read the research for yourself on that topic. In the past, I also shot and killed some pheasants with 20ga 1 oz loads of #4 steel but I'll...
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    The only thing you might want to do is not use...

    The only thing you might want to do is not use the #4 steel load and go with the #3 steel load or go to a #2 steel load! And, 12ga 3" loads aren't necessary for most pheasant hunting, a 12ga 2 3/4"...
  23. Pete -- Not trying to be the reloading nanny here...

    Pete -- Not trying to be the reloading nanny here but... I would be concerned about your addition to the payload of a published 1 1/2 oz load. Could you tell us where that 1 5/8 oz load is...
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    When shooting lead, a 20ga 1 oz load of #6 or #5...

    When shooting lead, a 20ga 1 oz load of #6 or #5 should take care of anything inside of 40 yards. That said, I usually reload 20ga 2 3/4" 1 oz of #6 lead (Blue Dot load) and 20ga 3" 1 1/8 oz (Blue...
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    If you are looking for a low cost affordable 20ga...

    If you are looking for a low cost affordable 20ga then a Yildiz will fill that bill. I have a SxS 410 Yildiz and like it just fine for dove but most of my upland shooting for dove, quail and pheasant...
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