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waggs
11-03-2010, 04:56 PM
In the market for a o/u. I puchased a Franchi 48 al 20 gauge auto a few years back and it has become my go too gun since.
The franchi weighs in at about 5 1/2 ponds, so now I'm lookin for a o/u that would be close in the same weight category.
Would like stay with a 12 or 20 gauge, but would prefere a 12.

Don't know my o/u very well so I am asking for your help and any suggetions.

FCSpringer
11-03-2010, 05:11 PM
I find my Cortona to be a nice weight to carry. Had CZ and they are heavy. The Cortona is just right I think, not so light they kick like a mule either.

Dakotazeb
11-03-2010, 05:19 PM
To stay in the 5 1/2 to 6 lb range you will probably have to stay with a 20 ga. With a twelve that light recoil could become an issue. If I was you I would look at a couple of the Brownings. Either the Browning Superlight Feather http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=008B&cat_id=013&type_id=055&content=citori-superlight-feather-firearms
or the Cynergy Feather http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=014B&cat_id=013&type_id=293&content=cynergy-feather-firearms

Calisdad
11-03-2010, 05:22 PM
I find my Cortona to be a nice weight to carry. Had CZ and they are heavy. The Cortona is just right I think, not so light they kick like a mule either.

If thats the O/U in the pics the other day its a nice looking piece. Make? Briley chokes?

FCSpringer
11-03-2010, 07:07 PM
If thats the O/U in the pics the other day its a nice looking piece. Make? Briley chokes?


Mine is a Cortona Grande Sporting. They have there own nickel plated chokes. They are an Italian gun, made by the same relatives as the Verona's, Cesar's, F.A.I.R, All Rizzini family's. Not sure on spelling.:D
Kalispell Caseline imported and distributed them, but I see they are out of business, belly up. So I don't know who is or will be bringing these fine Italian guns over any more. Tried a search tonight and there is not many left for sale. Found one like mine. Too bad, there nice guns. Hope they sort it out.

bobeyerite
11-03-2010, 07:15 PM
Keep an eye on CDNN they have these fine Italian guns for sale from time to Time. You can download their catalog at this link..........Bob

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

quail hound
11-03-2010, 08:15 PM
A lot of people have bad things to say about cz shotguns quality, but I own two and love them and have never had a malfunction with either.

Check this one out, not pretty by my standards but we all have different taste. At 6lbs it is a light 12ga o/u.
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/upland-ultralight/

I own a 20ga red head deluxe and though it lists at 6.7lbs mine weights just over 6.

FCSpringer
11-03-2010, 08:20 PM
I had a CZ Woodcock Deluxe.12ga It was a great gun and shot well. Great quality for the $. But it got heavy to carry. That was my only problem with it. And the choke tubes screwed in and out tougher then others. Not sure about the other models.

JMc
11-03-2010, 09:55 PM
Browning Cynergy Feather ... My favorite 12ga.

FCSpringer
11-03-2010, 10:25 PM
None of us mentioned that fit is important with an OU. thats why I ended up with what I have had, CZ and the Cesars or Cortonas fit perfect for me.

quail hound
11-03-2010, 10:34 PM
None of us mentioned that fit is important with an OU. thats why I ended up with what I have had, CZ and the Cesars or Cortonas fit perfect for me.

Very true, you need to shoulder the gun to get the feel of it. You also need to know your preference for lop, grip, and fore end styles. I love a gun that is thin in the wrist with a prince of Wales or English stock, its all about preference.

Michigan Gunner
11-05-2010, 07:14 PM
I have a Browning Upland OU in 20 ga. but it was also made in 12 ga. It has a straight stock and 24 inch barrels with Invector tubes. It's my favorite Grouse Gun.

Lock and Load :D

waggs
11-06-2010, 07:06 AM
I did a little shopping at the local sporting goods store. the one browning cynergy feather they had just didn't fit me well. Looked at every o/u they had and you know that feeling you get when you shoulder a gun at it just fits, They didn't have it in there store. I'm just begining this search so I will ask this.
Is there some o/u I should shy away from?

beaglebob1
11-06-2010, 09:06 PM
I did a little shopping at the local sporting goods store. the one browning cynergy feather they had just didn't fit me well. Looked at every o/u they had and you know that feeling you get when you shoulder a gun at it just fits, They didn't have it in there store. I'm just begining this search so I will ask this.
Is there some o/u I should shy away from?

I like Citori 12s and 20s and my old Red label 12:)

FCSpringer
11-06-2010, 09:11 PM
I did a little shopping at the local sporting goods store. the one browning cynergy feather they had just didn't fit me well. Looked at every o/u they had and you know that feeling you get when you shoulder a gun at it just fits, They didn't have it in there store. I'm just begining this search so I will ask this.
Is there some o/u I should shy away from?

Nope, just stay at a respectable $ range so as not to buy junk, and keep looking for that one that fits. I did the same thing. Pulled up on who knows how many. Only a few fit me.

Fenway
11-06-2010, 10:39 PM
I bought this Rizzini last year in 20 and love it, almost always use it, I shoot it better then my 12 skb or my cz 20 sxs. It is very light but I have 30" tubes so It' balanced well, weighs just over 6#. Only use a 12 now out west late season.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj229/redtop48/Rizzini/100_1160.jpg

laxpatrick
11-07-2010, 09:48 PM
Going to be toting around a cynergy euro sporting this week in SD in 20. Light! swings great, compact, etc.

Natty Bumpo
11-08-2010, 09:36 AM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Beretta Ultra Light- a 12 GA O/U based on the proven 687 action. They've been out for awhile so you should be able to find a nice preowned one for field use. Mine weighs right at 6# with 28" tubes.

From bad experiences, I'd stay away from some of the names mentioned above.

NB

CRP
11-08-2010, 11:49 AM
waggs, you better shoot one of those 6 lb O/U's before buying one. While great to carry, firing a typical 12GA hunting load will really rock your world!

mnbandit32
11-14-2010, 04:49 PM
I have the CZ Ultralight and could not be happier with it. It fit really well for me and I have been using it for everything this fall. I have used it for shooting clays this summer as well as waterfowl and pheasants this fall. I have not had any problems with the amount of kick. To me, even with the higher power hunting shells, you do not feel the kick. I have tried several guns and the CZ was and will always be my first choice. I have let others shoot my gun too and they are surprised how little kick there is for such a light gun.

onpoint
11-14-2010, 06:18 PM
Outstanding. I like to hear good reports on guns. Nothing worse then someone who has had back luck with a certain gun.

MJinMN
11-21-2010, 09:13 AM
I tend to like a lighter gun as well and ended up with a Beretta 686 when I bought a O/U. They tend to have a bit longer length of pull I believe, so fit me well as a bigger guy with long arms. Moving from a single barrel gun to a double barrel, I always felt like the barrel part of the guns were so heavy, but the Beretta was much less that way.

AtTheMurph
12-13-2010, 09:12 PM
I tend to like a lighter gun as well and ended up with a Beretta 686 when I bought a O/U. They tend to have a bit longer length of pull I believe, so fit me well as a bigger guy with long arms. Moving from a single barrel gun to a double barrel, I always felt like the barrel part of the guns were so heavy, but the Beretta was much less that way.

I have to 2nd this opinion. Love my 686, light, reliable, looks good and fits perfectly.

crockett
12-14-2010, 08:17 AM
I bought a plain-Jane Beretta 686 ultralight a few years ago. this summer I had a gunsmith add an inch to the stock and steam-bend it to cast-on and decrease the drop-at-comb. Not it flies to my shoulder and the bead sits just right. There has been a measurable improvement in my kill rate as a result, especially on the first shot. I absolutely love the gun. This one tips the scale at 5 pounds 11 ounces. My buddy bought one of the newer ones and it's just a hair under 6 lbs. 28" 12 gauge chambered 2.75. Lots of guys complain about the recoil of these ultralight guns. I disagree though - for shooting a bit of practice clays once in a while (25 rounds or so is fine) and definitely as a field gun, the recoil is nothing to worry about (keeping in mind that I am relatively well padded). So I recommend the gun for sure, but perhaps even more so, I recommend custom stock fitting. It might not be as expensive as you think. The gunsmith who did it for me only charged me 150$ for the steam bending (lengthening the LOP was more to add a stock spacer and make it look good etc...).
-Croc

EEK
12-14-2010, 10:36 AM
i bought a Franchi renaisssance in 12g, just over 6lb with 28in barrels, it has a great gel pad and best of all it was on sale at sportsmans for 899.00 after rebate.

crockett
12-14-2010, 11:40 AM
i bought a Franchi renaisssance in 12g, just over 6lb with 28in barrels, it has a great gel pad and best of all it was on sale at sportsmans for 899.00 after rebate.

My hunting buddy bought one of these as well (the price DROPPED this year in Canada as well - from 1500 down to 1100$!). It's a beaut. As you say, nice and light, good fit and finish, nice attention to detail. Very nice option.

uplandgameadventures
12-14-2010, 02:41 PM
Browning Cynergy Feather ... My favorite 12ga.

I have to agree! :10sign:

C-Train
12-22-2010, 04:11 PM
I went through th O/U buying process a couple years ago. I would also suggest getting your hand on as many different guns as possible to see witch one feels the best. I ended up buying a Ruger Red Label 12guage and absolutly love it. The Red Label was not the gun I originally hand in mind when I started out, but it was the one that felt the best to me.

Good luck and have fun!!!!!!!

BrowningCitori
12-27-2010, 04:15 PM
If my memory hasn't failed me Retriever Journal just did a review of lightweight over and under 12 gauges this fall. It would be worth tracking down the article, it had lots of good info., unfortunately I loaned my copy to someone.

VZWman
12-28-2010, 04:33 PM
I just inherited from my dad's Sigarms SA3. It isn't the lightest but definitely feels lighter than my 870. It shoulders really well for me, now I just have to teach myself to stop overcompensating for the bottom barrel. :D

raankin76
12-29-2010, 09:34 AM
:)I have a red head deluxe by cz in 12 gauge and there bob white in a 20.I love them both.I started looking for a semi auto in a12 just becouse im a teribble shot. I wasnt knocking birds dead with my 20.So i started useing my 12 more.LIke you i wonted a light shotgun in 12 gauge.I was looking for something not to expencive but also good. As far as kick goes im a young man i figure bring it on.there are a number of nice shotguns out there i figure if i like it ill buy it.As long a it kind of fits me ill learn how to shoot it.

VZWman
12-29-2010, 12:26 PM
VZW- Don't think about any compensation for a barrel- just shoot like you normally do. Open up your choke and be more selective of your shots if need be. Just dont THINK- REACT!

Thanks driggs. Going to go test it out shortly. It has an improved in the bottom barrel, but I usually tend to start thing about things and screw up. I can even screw up shooting doubles in clays with a single barrel. I'm sure I just need more practice with it.

koja48
12-30-2010, 08:24 AM
Shotgun: The original "point & click" interface . . .

Rooster Roaster
12-31-2010, 11:08 AM
Not the cheapest route, but I have a 6 lb. 5 oz. Beretta 687 Ultralight Deluxe. I like the weight because it's very light, but not too light. It's my lightest 12 gauge and about as light as I can go without overpowering the gun, and I feed it 7/8 oz. loads for practice at the range. No need to shoot the new "magnumitis" loads in these light 12's. A 1 1/4 oz. load at 1200-1250 has works fine on roosters.

If you're on a tighter budget and want to go light I'd take a good look at the CZ Ultralight OU. I've hearing some good things about this model.

dustin mudd
12-31-2010, 12:18 PM
Hi a couple of thoughts , I used a 20 for wild birds for almost 10 years, and found most shots going away , yielded in my opinon more lost or wounded birds than i thought necessary. I had used a light 20 auto, so went looking for a 12 ga. O/U. I found a Browning superposed superlight, under 7 pounds and with 1 1/8 Federal loads was deadly on pheasants, without undo recoil. I shot it at clays last year with 1 oz. loads and didnt feel punished either. This fall was my best pheasant year ever.
Take a look for the citori version of super light, that might be your answer, probably in the range price wise of much heavier guns?

onpoint
12-31-2010, 07:52 PM
Browning Cynergy Feather. Light, reliable as the sun and backed with a 5 year Warranty..pluse $500.00 in Cynergy gear/rebate

Rooster Roaster
01-01-2011, 09:44 AM
I don't own one, but that Cynergy Feather Composite looks like an interesting gun. Nice and light, and the adjustable comb is quite a nice feature for "dailing in" your gunfit.