View Full Version : AS non toxic shot becomes manditory, will the 410 and 28 fade away?

03-29-2010, 04:56 AM
What's your thoughts?

I understand that there's a drive to even force shooting ranges/gun clubs to make non toxic shot mandatory. In Minnesota, it's being driven by a conservation Org. and the Mn DNR


"Lead Shot Phase Out
The MCF recommitted the organization to the elimination of the use of toxic shot (lead) for upland game hunting within three to five years statewide‚??starting with Minnesota Wildlife Management Areas. The Legislature considered a DNR plan to ban lead shot on WMA‚??s this session. It is currently banned over water. The DNR task force, that included Gordie Meyer, made similar recommendations. The phase out language made it all the way to a conference committee but was dropped there due to opposition from Federal Cartridge and the National Rifle Association. The MCF and others will try again this year.

This IMO spells the death of many small gauge/fixed choke guns.

03-29-2010, 08:50 AM
While I can certainly understand the use of NON Tox for waterfowl or shooting over water, I would like to see the studies the DNR is using for it's recommendations for using it for ALL upland hunting statewide.???

I doubt there are any studies and their recommendations are purely without basis and more politically driven than anything else. :rolleyes:

Didn't they (DNR) send out a survey to hunters regarding this a couple years back?

03-29-2010, 09:28 AM
I don't really believe that they will just fade away. In Skeet Tournaments you have all gauge events. Which are the 12, 20, 28 and .410. (Sorry George no 16's) That makes a 100 bird event. On that basis I will say that type of shooting events will keep them alive.........Bob

03-30-2010, 02:38 PM
I'm still looking for a non-tox alternative for my 16 ga. I used the Federal Premium steel loads last year with pretty good results. I'd like to try the Kent Tungsten Matrix loads but at a cost of $3 every time I pull the trigger I just can't stomach with price. Anyone find a better buy on the Kent's than approx. $32 for a box of 10?

Michigan Gunner
04-09-2010, 07:43 PM
The whole non-tox issue is just another anti-hunter and anti-gun angle. There never was a big problem with the loss of birds, only a few areas that were heavily hunted over shallow water had a concern with this.

It's just another thing we have to put up with.........for now. ;)

Lock and Load! :D