3 1/2 year old guide dog quit hunting

[KCWIEM]

My opinion is that he is just not a hunter.... Just because he has a good pedigree or was from a guide does not mean he is a hunter.... Who knows how his training went and how well he really liked it... I have seen dogs get hours and hours of training and given the chance they want nothing to do with hunting... I think that some dogs are over trained too early in their life... Just think he is only 3.5 just becoming a mature dog... don't give up on him my friend... Might try to make it fun again rather than so much stress... He knows how to hunt...

[beaglebob1]

Originally Posted by KCWIEM

My opinion is that he is just not a hunter.... Just because he has a good pedigree or was from a guide does not mean he is a hunter.... Who knows how his training went and how well he really liked it... I have seen dogs get hours and hours of training and given the chance they want nothing to do with hunting... I think that some dogs are over trained too early in their life... Just think he is only 3.5 just becoming a mature dog... don't give up on him my friend... Might try to make it fun again rather than so much stress... He knows how to hunt...

You could be right. But open the kennel and he is the first in the dog box.
This is a puzzler.

[beaglebob1]

Originally Posted by bobeyerite

Bob do you know if anybody used an E-collar on him. You stated quote. "We hunted him twice last year and he pissed me off so much I put him in the truck". Could he have done that before and got a strong zap from a e-collar? It has been known to happen, one strong zap and they quit. If you can check into it. The trainer/guide should stand behind the dog. He has more at stake with a mad you, than a happy you.........Bob

Bob. I am going to try working on him myself.

[Gove County Britts]

nice to know they don't stand behind there dogs I am in the market for a new pointer female and was lookiing at them as a prospective place to get 1 not now thanks for the info beaglebob

[V-John]

I've not heard a single good thing about them period.

Just out of curiousity, what was the dog doing that pissed you off, and how did you react to it?

Not judging, just curious.

[beaglebob1]

Originally Posted by V-John

I've not heard a single good thing about them period.

Just out of curiousity, what was the dog doing that pissed you off, and how did you react to it?

Not judging, just curious.

wont hunt goes back to the truck like he is scared. guns do not bother him.

[oldandnew]

Have you tried running him without an e-collar? or anything that resembles it in size and weight. Try a checkcord in the back yard and a planted bird in the open, where he can see, it will get you on the track to see if bird contact is an issue. Use a pigeon or better yet a quail, likely a bird he did not have an issue with. See what happens. The visual is important because if it's the bird contact he will blink it, by acting like he doesn't see it.

[beaglebob1]

Update On Sport:
I had Sport out without the collar and planted a few quial and he acted better than he has been. He new the first two where there but did not point. I flushed them and he half way made a move to chase but came back to my side. Next set he did the same thing but this time I shot and he retrieved both to hand. I was out of birds. He seemed very happy. I do think he was burned with a collar. Played fetch with the dead birds and right to hand every toss. I will get 20 birds next outing and see what happens. He may be fixable

[beaglebob1]

Originally Posted by beaglebob1

wont hunt goes back to the truck like he is scared. guns do not bother him.

I dont know what is up with him. Had him out yesterday we shot several birds and he acted like he could care less. Shot another one 15 minutes or so later and he bee lined to the truck jumping on the sides trying to get in.
When we got back to the truck he was under it tucked up to the rear tire.
So yeah he is gun shy sometimes and sometimes he aint. I have talked to a lot of folks for over a year and just cant figure what the dog has going on. He was at one time a darn good dog. We took dead birds and played fetch with him and perfect retrieves everytime. He was happy to do it.
Maybe he got peppered before we got him, I just dont know. I dont have enough talent to fix him. I am still kinda new at this game.

[BritChaser]

Originally Posted by beaglebob1

Update On Sport:
I had Sport out without the collar and planted a few quial and he acted better than he has been. He new the first two where there but did not point. I flushed them and he half way made a move to chase but came back to my side. Next set he did the same thing but this time I shot and he retrieved both to hand. I was out of birds. He seemed very happy. I do think he was burned with a collar. Played fetch with the dead birds and right to hand every toss. I will get 20 birds next outing and see what happens. He may be fixable

Sounds like he got shock collar abused at some point. Obviously, he likes birds and being with you.